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anon6368 on Progenadrex Questions

July 24, 2015, 3:53 am
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Hi,

I'm 33, come back to training after a couple of years out for various reasons. I have lost a lot of muscle in that time and am looking for a way to help pack it back on quicker without using something as severe as Pro Hormones. I am definitely an ecto and a hard gainer, so I need the help I can get as gaining any mass for me is tough.

 

Having read a lot of good things about Progenadrex I am thinking that this (perhaps stacked with Activate Extreme) would be a good way to go...

Now my questions relate to how to use the stuff and whether it will be effective for me. I have a massively hectic schedule, so the recommend 30 minute 4 times a week workouts are a no go. I can do 3 sessions a week and do a full body workout each day that lasts about 1.5 hours - this is done in the evening after work.

That leads to the next point, which is consuming it 'within 1 hour of a workout' with a high carb high protein meal. Now for me this is not really viable as I tend to finish my workout at about 7:30 in the evening, then have a protein shake with a blend of rice/pea protein and rice milk, then shower, then cook dinner which is a family orientated meal. I/we tend not to eat a lot of carbs in the evening.

 

I do have a large home made mass gain shake 3 hours before my workout, which is about 700-800 calories... so maybe on workout days I could take Progendarex pre rather than post workout?

 

I am wondering how best to fit Progendarex into this, or if it is even worth the cash; i.e. if it will be wasted if I do not follow the recommended us verbatim.

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anon6368 on Progenadrex Questions

July 24, 2015, 6:20 am
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I would like to add a question which would be whether to stack this with a test booster or with Mass Pro Synthagen... can't really afford to run all three at once.

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Hemavol on XI-KT - Upcoming Log

July 24, 2015, 7:29 am
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Hey guys,

 

I am going to start my first log on this mild PH called XI-KT from Iron Legion. I know the drill and I have been reading bunch of information about ph's / cycles and steroids in general.

 

I have been training for 2 years now and from the very beginning I have been training quite seriously. I go to the gym 5-7 times a week and I train bodybuilding style. My plan is to be on deficit but slowly adding carbs in to the machine. I am now on very low carb diet but going to end it before the cut and kinda start doing "reverse" diet and slowly adding carbs and calories. So my plan with this would be to propably cut a little bit, since my metabolism will spike up and maybe get some gains and ofc get some aid to the reverse diet aswell from the cycle. I also love to do a lot of drop sets, supersets etc.. I think that "pain" and actually this kind of hard training is the key for big muscles. I do not care about the strength that much.

 

I have couple questions to you guys that actually have OWN experiences etc... so bare with me. 

 

1. People say that when you're on a cycle, you should be focusing for more strength type training (8-10 reps per set with a weight that allows it.. so not max strength weights but not high rep weight either).. comments on this?

2. Is Nolva or Clomid needed? Or is OTC PCT enough? If it is, what product you would choose? Arimistane(Erase pro etc..)? or 6bromo? what?

3. Is cycle support needed? What would you take? All-in-one product like Aegis/Organ Shield or just milk thistle / nac... what would you go for?

4. Would you add somekind of test booster to the pct? Example, daa / anabeta elite / activate extreme.. or do you feel its pointless.

 

So guys please tell me your experience and what would you do. I am looking at these products because I cannot get my hands on to nolva or clomid easily and I have heard that XI-KT is probably the best mild one. I feel like that If I could get nolva, I would try to get some wets with it and go all in.

 

My stack so far would be:

-2x XI-KT bottles for 4-6 weeks (depends how soon I will raise dosage from 1ml)

-AI Cycle support for 60 days

-PCT With either arimistane (Ex. old erase pro) or 6-bromo .. I have tried erase pro many times on cut and it has worked very well but last run for 60days felt like it did not kick in like it used to.. dunno if bad batch or what but that's why I am more looking at 6 bromo at this moment.

 

Br.

Hemavol

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Mixelflick on Progenadrex Questions

July 25, 2015, 7:39 am
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No worries man, pre-workout (all 6 caps) is actually preferred.

User feedback was clear on this point: It leads to massive pumps, alpha male intensity and a healthy appetite post workout - which is when the growing starts.

Tough call on whether to stack with a test booster vs. MPS. Only a blood test would reveal if you're not in the optimal range for total test (range is 300 - 1100ng/dl). Optimal IMO is 750 or above. There are quality home test kits available, such as from zrtlab.com here in the states. Be advised though, that the ethanol extract we use of Anacyclus P. has been shown to double test levels. 

If test is optimal, MPS would add an insane amount of recovery, muscle fullness and cellular energy. Several MPS fans have stacked the two, with at least one user review here in the store speaking to such. http://www.predatornutrition.com/fusion-supplements-progenadrex-180-caps/

"I stack this with Synthagen and I have to say the results are quite profound both in gains in LBM, strength and recovery. I feel like I have endless amounts of energy both during my work-outs and after. 

The physical changes have been noted by other people so I have no doubt that this product works and works fast!.."

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Mixelflick on My Progenadrex Run

July 25, 2015, 7:53 am
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Sorry to hear about the knee man, right there with you with a tendon injury tho LOL

The good news is you retained your gains coming off Progenadrex, and even some of the alpha male effects? To me, this is the best part of the product. Gains don't "wash away" easily - even in the face of injury. It's understandable the muscles don't appear as full/pumped when you're off (no Anacyclus P., R-ALA) super stuffing the muscle full of glycogen, etc.

Will be fun once you re-introduce... Cool

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englishbob on My Progenadrex Run

July 25, 2015, 11:14 am
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That's exactly what I noticed. There is a leanness and firmness to my muscles that wasn't there before I started ProG in January. As a little test I put on a pair of jeans yesterday I hadn't worn since April. They are noticeably looser.

BTW, I have been running Synthagen and Tranquilogen around the work-outs since coming off the ProG last month. I'm back on the ProG next week. Trying to get pumped before a trip to Colombia at the end of August!

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FatBoySlimFast on Original Craze v 1.. Is there anywhere i can find it?

July 21, 2015, 10:27 pm
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UnshavedSlayer said

snakester said

UnshavedSlayer said

FatBoySlimFast said

UnshavedSlayer said

I find it weird that iForce Conquer doesn't get any love at all? I'd say it's almost the best there is at the moment price/effect wise. Sure it tastes like battery acid but who cares.

Haha correct about the battery acid taste, pretty much the same with most iForce formulas, flavouring is def not there strong point! As for the effects, well didn't do a great deal for me and we know that usually anything with the slightest amount of stimulants in has some effect on me.

As for Max Out tried a sample the other day and didn't like it at all, made me feel really nauseous and wired(very similar to the way OG Craze did) and I didn't want to train or be around people at all!!

So you're basically saying I should get some. Wired & nauseous are the key words here!

 but which one is fbsf talking about predators version or the better looking usa version

I just figured it was the EU version since he said it was a sample he tried -> probably got a sample with an order from PN?  Who knows fbsf can clarify.

Yep a sample received from Predator(a very rare thing these days Frown)

Oh and I forgot to specify that I only took 2/3 of the sample.......

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snakester on Original Craze v 1.. Is there anywhere i can find it?

July 22, 2015, 7:47 am
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FatBoySlimFast said

UnshavedSlayer said

snakester said

UnshavedSlayer said

FatBoySlimFast said

UnshavedSlayer said

I find it weird that iForce Conquer doesn't get any love at all? I'd say it's almost the best there is at the moment price/effect wise. Sure it tastes like battery acid but who cares.

Haha correct about the battery acid taste, pretty much the same with most iForce formulas, flavouring is def not there strong point! As for the effects, well didn't do a great deal for me and we know that usually anything with the slightest amount of stimulants in has some effect on me.

As for Max Out tried a sample the other day and didn't like it at all, made me feel really nauseous and wired(very similar to the way OG Craze did) and I didn't want to train or be around people at all!!

So you're basically saying I should get some. Wired & nauseous are the key words here!

 but which one is fbsf talking about predators version or the better looking usa version

I just figured it was the EU version since he said it was a sample he tried -> probably got a sample with an order from PN?  Who knows fbsf can clarify.

Yep a sample received from Predator(a very rare thing these days Frown)

Oh and I forgot to specify that I only took 2/3 of the sample.......

 yep I thought that would b the case but I thought id ask anyway and I asked 2 times for a max out sample and didn't get one

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englishbob on My Progenadrex Run

July 22, 2015, 9:12 am
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Mixelflick said
EnglishBob, are you using or not using right now? Curious..

Just starting back with Convict Conditioning myself. Humbling... ;)

Hi Mixelflick,

Currently not.  My program was short-circuited by a knee injury.  MRI shows a fat pad impingement.  Quite painful and makes my usual intense training impossible.  I really want to save my Progenadrex for hard training, which is when I get the most benefits.

Also, analysis by my physio shows that I have significant loss of stability in the pelvis as a result of my earlier (three) disc prolapses.  This instability has led to other muscles taking up the load (leading to a hamstring tear and knee injury).  So we are working on some remedial exercises to restore the stability to the pelvic area.

What I will say is that there has not been any loss in strength since coming off Pro and while my muscles look smaller my muscle definition appears better.  Overall I would say my physique has changed noticeably since I began using Pro in January - I appear leaner and broader since then.  The alpha male feeling has remained (and has even been remarked upon by female friends).  I'm looking forward to getting back on it (in a few weeks I hope).

I am still able to do Convict Conditioning and I'm moving forward with that!

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stedroidbaker on FIrst PH cycle

July 23, 2015, 12:16 am
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Zariph said
Hello! So Im gonna try a PH cycle and was looking into Havoc.

 

Now does this stack look fine?

 

Week 1-5 Androtest

Week 2-5 Havoc 20mg/30mg/30mg/30mg

On cycle support Im gonna use Antaeus Labs Talos week 1-5

 

Now as for PCT im not quite sure what to do but I was thinking of going with:

Week 6- 12 Pes Erase Pro and DS lean Xtreme and then stack it with a natty test booster such as APE or Active Xtreme

 

Does this look allright?;) Help woul really be appreciatet!

Havoc is Epistane, and as Androtest is 4-AD you'll essentially be stacking 2 prohormones for your first run. I'd therefore suggest that for your PCT you'd be better off using a SERM rather than just Erase and Lean Xtreme. 

There are OTC PCT supplements with (apparently) proven SERM-like results such as BLR Rebirth (I'll be using this following my Androtest cycle next month), otherwise you'll have to look into research chems or pharma-grade SERMs. 

Other than that, your cycle looks good. Not sure what's in Talos, but with Epi/Havoc it is more likely to cause back-pumps and higher blood pressure, so make sure you have taurine and a good natural BP supplement on hand too ;)

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Mixelflick on My Progenadrex Run

July 26, 2015, 4:50 am
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englishbob said

That's exactly what I noticed. There is a leanness and firmness to my muscles that wasn't there before I started ProG in January. As a little test I put on a pair of jeans yesterday I hadn't worn since April. They are noticeably looser.

BTW, I have been running Synthagen and Tranquilogen around the work-outs since coming off the ProG last month. I'm back on the ProG next week. Trying to get pumped before a trip to Colombia at the end of August!

Laugh

Interesting...

What have you noticed, vs. straight Progenadrex dosing?

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mayzini on XI KT and CYNOSTANE STACK

July 28, 2015, 8:41 am
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Hi guys new member to the forum and after some advice.

I am on a cut after serious injury last year and weight gain as result.  I am 6ft currently 112kg  and have lost 11kg in the past 12 weeks through good diet and training and been 4 months dry of any alcohol. I have invested this time in a well regarded personal trainer, which is the first time as I want to maximise results.

The reason for the this post is that I am 40 in November and now fit to train want to get back to as close to my best as possible for the party and celebration.  I have two bottles of XI KT and also a bottle of Cynostane.  after some fantastic help of the guy and predator there has been a suggestion of stacking the same. I am interested in this to maximise results but unsure of how to structure it.

my feeling is either to run XI KT for 4 weeks and the introduce the CYnostane for a further 4 weeks maing an 8 week cycle. However a friend suggested stacking it in reverse with the Xi KT (1ml) and Cynostane (30mg) for 4 weeks and then the second bottle of XI KT for the remaining 4 weeks of the 8 weeks cycle before PCT. I have full cycle support recommended by Predator via organshield  and have reversitol V2, Lean xtreme, activate extreme and Cirrus for PCT. I already supplement with a good multi vit, vitamin D and fish oils as well as CLA and L Carnitine.

any suggestions on the best way to structure this for best results ?

thanks in advance for any input.

 

regards,

 

Mayzini

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UnshavedSlayer on Original Craze v 1.. Is there anywhere i can find it?

July 28, 2015, 11:38 pm
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Any1 of you tried that new Myoblitz XS? Just caught my eye ytd....

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mrwhite on ds frenzy

July 30, 2015, 2:08 am
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HI GUYS 

 

just got some of that frenzy and its great stuff gives you some right energy and power to keep traning just wanting to know if i can stack it with say

 

frenzy and a prohormones like fusion xtreme mass or

frenzy and DAA or

frenzy and mass pro synthagen

 

also has mass pro synthagen got creatine in it

and has frenzy got creatine got it 

 

if anyone could give me some advice what i could take with it plz let us know 

 

thanx

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mrwhite on frenzy

July 30, 2015, 2:12 am
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HI GUYS   

just got some of that frenzy and its great stuff gives you some right energy and power to keep traning just wanting to know if i can stack it with say

frenzy and a prohormones like fusion xtreme mass or

frenzy and DAA or

frenzy and mass pro synthagen  

also has mass pro synthagen got creatine in it and has frenzy got creatine got it   

if anyone could give me some advice what i could take with it plz let us know   

 

thanx 

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MoGTR on Losing Body Fat WITHOUT FASTING

July 30, 2015, 11:32 am
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I love fasting.. However I don't think the results are that much amazing over a normal calorie controlled diet.

I do use online calculators but find they overestimate my macros alot! I normally take off around 500 cals on a cut.

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